{"id":2707,"date":"2019-09-04T09:23:08","date_gmt":"2019-09-04T14:23:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/jasonblair.net\/?p=2707"},"modified":"2019-09-04T09:39:46","modified_gmt":"2019-09-04T14:39:46","slug":"how-much-flight-time-does-it-take-to-make-a-pilot-the-truth-the-numbers-tell","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/jasonblair.net\/?p=2707","title":{"rendered":"How Much Flight Time Does It Take To Make A Pilot? &#8211; The truth the numbers tell&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So how many flight hours DOES it take to get a private pilot certificate? Or an instrument rating? Or even a commercial pilot certificate?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Well, the FAA does gather this data on the application forms that it collects when a practical test is conducted for a certificate or rating, but, to the best of my knowledge, it is not collected, collated, and reported in any way to the public as an aggregate.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">But that doesn\u2019t stop us from being curious, so I took the data from the FAA 8710-1 forms from the over 1000 practical tests I have given and collated it into a couple of data points that are now presented in this small, but highly intriguing chart.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The below chart collects data from practical tests I have given (primarily in Michigan) and helps create a general understanding of how many hours of flight and simulator time that applicants had accumulated at the time of granting of various pilot certificates and ratings. Specifically, we compiled the data for the initial private pilot certificate, instrument rating, and initial commercial multi-engine certificate events<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">With that said, here is what we found.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-full wp-image-2709\" src=\"https:\/\/jasonblair.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/COMPILED-Pilot-Certificate-Event-Times-Tracking.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"1271\" height=\"902\" srcset=\"https:\/\/jasonblair.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/COMPILED-Pilot-Certificate-Event-Times-Tracking.png 1271w, https:\/\/jasonblair.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/COMPILED-Pilot-Certificate-Event-Times-Tracking-300x213.png 300w, https:\/\/jasonblair.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/COMPILED-Pilot-Certificate-Event-Times-Tracking-768x545.png 768w, https:\/\/jasonblair.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/COMPILED-Pilot-Certificate-Event-Times-Tracking-1024x727.png 1024w, https:\/\/jasonblair.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/COMPILED-Pilot-Certificate-Event-Times-Tracking-423x300.png 423w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1271px) 100vw, 1271px\" \/><!--more--><\/p>\n<p><b>What can we infer from this chart (and the data behind it)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">This chart highlights some interesting points and at a first glance may lead the reader astray. Let\u2019s start with the first thing a couple of friends noticed when I shared the results with them.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Is it faster to get a private pilot certificate in FAR 61 training than FAR 141 training?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Maybe. In this particular data set, the answer is yes, which is interesting and not actually what I expected we would have found when we set out to compile this data.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">A guess ahead of time might have lead someone to think that the structured program of a FAR 141 program would result in students getting their private pilot certificate at lesser hours than a less structured program. The reason for this cannot be determined from the data, but it does point out that our initial impressions may not always be correct when we look at actual data.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">FAR 141 training results in commercial pilot certificates at lower hours.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">When we looked at just the private pilot certificate, the difference between FAR 141 and FAR 61 training was less noticeable. But when we look at the full path of training where an applicant has transitioned through FAR 141 training typically through their private pilot certificate, to an instrument rating, and to an initial commercial multi-engine certificate, we find their average total flight time is a very round number of 200 hours. This is not possible to do when training is conducted in FAR 61 operations due to the fact that a regulatory minimum of 250 hours is required to be met. This leaves a student in the position to be a \u201cpaid pilot\u201d a full 50 hours earlier than if they did their training under FAR 61 operations. This demonstrates the benefit of a full FAR 141 curriculum approach to reducing hours of training.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Underutilization of simulators?<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Considering a very large number of the practical tests I conducted that are included in this data set are at a FAR 141 collegiate program and even some of the non-FAR 141 events were at training operations that have simulators, I kind of expected there to be more hours in simulators represented. Does this hint that we may be underutilizing simulators? I know this debate has been going on in this industry, but perhaps this data helps support that argument.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Less solo time in FAR 141 training than FAR 61 training.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">While I didn\u2019t include it in the table, a friend asked me if \u201c15 hours really seemed like it was accurate or was a little low for the solo (PIC) time a private pilot does\u2026\u201d\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So, I dug into the number some more.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">What I found was that a student in this data set who flew under FAR 61 training completed an average of 19 hours of solo (PIC) flight time, while a student in FAR 141 training completed only an average of 11 hours of solo (PIC) flight time. This means that not only were the applicants in this data set flying more total hours in FAR 141 training, they were also flying more of those hours with their instructors and less on their own as the PIC.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">A private pilot really isn\u2019t getting their certificate in 40 hours<\/span>.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Most of us in the industry kind of knew this already, but I don\u2019t think most of us thought the average time was 77 hours. This means that the average private pilot is taking 185% of the minimum time the FAA requires to meet the requirements and pass a private pilot practical test.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">For years we have been quoting numbers to customers that indicate averages like 55-60 hours of realistic flight time experience before someone takes their private pilot practical test and gets their certificate. This data really showed that that is rarer than we might have thought.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Why? That is probably the next question we should ask.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Are we doing training wrong? Is there more to train that there was historically? Or are we just bad at it? I\u2019m not sure, but this data definitely gives us some food for thought about which we might want to have some more discussion.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><b>Some notes on the data sets.<\/b><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The overwhelming majority of the tests in this data set have been in Michigan, with a large percentage of them in a collegiate aviation program. There were a little under 500 for each private and instrument pilot certificates issued, and just under 100 for the initial commercial multi-engine certification events. The hours tracked in this were taken directly from what applicants reported to the FAA as proof of required hours of flight training to be eligible for the certificates and ratings for which I provided practical tests. Only successful, certificate\/rating resulting passing events were used in this data.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">This is the data to which I had access. If any other examiners reading this post have copies of the 8710-1\u2019s for their applicants and want to share their results with me, I would be happy to provide a copy of a spreadsheet template that you could use to compile your own data to submit to expand the data pool and include them in an updated future data set for more robust reporting. I fully expect some potential variation might be possible for regionality and training environment.<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>So how many flight hours DOES it take to get a private pilot certificate? Or an instrument rating? Or even a commercial pilot certificate? 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